From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:53:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1laomak.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn0uzubj.fsf@gnu.org> <87im6molnq.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8geztvt.fsf@gnu.org> <871rdar6i3.fsf@igel.home> <87tuq6pfja.fsf@igel.home> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39396"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 00:55:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDc5a-000A9n-M4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 00:55:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35286 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDc5Z-0006tb-Hn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:55:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57982) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDc4H-0005zA-Uz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53283) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDc4G-0001nF-JD; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:53:44 -0500 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDc4F-0000Dw-SM; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 18:53:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87tuq6pfja.fsf@igel.home> (message from Andreas Schwab on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 22:58:49 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265364 Archived-At: I (~20 YEARS AGO) HACKED EMACS ON A TEKTRONIX 4010 TO ALLOW ME TO DRAW VECTOR GRAPHICS ON THE DISPLAY FROM EMACS USING A LOGO / TURTLE LIKE LANGUAGE -- WHILE IT HAD A SHIFT KEY, IT ONLY WORKED FOR THE FIRST ROW OF KEYS SINCE ALL LETTERS WHERE UPPER CASE. IT DID NOT HAVE AN ESCAPE KEY, YOU HAD TO TYPE CONTROL SHIFT K X TO GET M-X. SO YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT IN THAT MAYBE IT IS ACTUALLY M-X THAT IS UNTYPABLE ON THE ANY TERMINAL ... BUT LETS NOW SHIFT THIS DISCUSSION...