From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding. Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:11:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zh0mmr54.fsf@gmail.com> <20210203221628.xgvvxjvh56gyswba@Ergus> <20210204070033.pm4ido4hq7a6twif@Ergus> <83sg6brhyg.fsf@gnu.org> <5588fb25805d486be704@heytings.org> <5588fb2580d7e46863dd@heytings.org> <5588fb2580f248753c30@heytings.org> <5588fb25800032b1a06a@heytings.org> <993b9ce74de32c5450c3@heytings.org> <329d68a5ed872ee02e63@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6730"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 12 16:12:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAa7o-0001eT-5I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:12:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45246 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAa7n-0005Ri-58 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:12:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAa6f-0003vg-KK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:11:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51678) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAa6f-0007eT-1Q; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:11:41 -0500 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lAa6e-0008Tu-Gl; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:11:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <329d68a5ed872ee02e63@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 12 Feb 2021 09:09:27 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264516 Archived-At: > Most (All?) keyboards today have a Super key -- why not allocate that or > parts of it to global third-party packages? Because the super modifier cannot be used in a terminal or console? That is simply not true. > This solves moving things around, and constantly breaking things for > people. Is it not a slight exaggeration to say that Emacs is "constantly breaking things"? Is it? The build was just broken just recently. > There are far more solutions to this problem than just unbinding keys > unconditionally for some unknown future case that nobody can figure out. It's not "for some unknown future case that nobody can figure out", it's for a recurring problem that is becoming more and more important. More and more users use Emacs, the extensible editor, with third-party extension libraries, and these these third-party extension libraries cannot create global key bindings. There is already a space where users (and what third party packages can recommend users to use) can bind their keys.