From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Experimentally unbind M-o on the trunk Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:47:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8ed9b43502ae1480e06b@heytings.org> <83r1lohqoc.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31158"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 18:11:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9t1B-0007zh-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 18:11:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9t1A-0005G8-2n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:11:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9sdt-0004y5-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:47:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47139) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9sds-0001Zb-1H; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:47:04 -0500 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l9sdr-0006cp-9V; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:47:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83r1lohqoc.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 10 Feb 2021 17:45:55 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264303 Archived-At: > Sorry, I atleast have a hard time taking these suggestion to remap > long standing keybindings randomly seriously, likewise suggestions > that users should just resort to M-x or binding them themselves. Can you explain why you are so worried about Emacs changing the default key bindings? Given that it takes one line in your .emacs to restore any binding you care for, why argue so much about the defaults? Those who do wish to change the current behaviour of M-o (for example) could also just rebind it in their .emacs file -- as you say, it is only one line. So why is that not also a solution here? Why is it always users who have to explain themselves and never the developers who change functionality that they don't even seem to use?