From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding. Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zh0mmr54.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2g5smya.fsf@gmail.com> <4FF55FBF-573D-4A70-B3FC-682CA25B7ECB@gnu.org> <83lfc53whk.fsf@gnu.org> <20210203180142.seu6o3i6u7jhkyrh@Ergus> <83eehx3to5.fsf@gnu.org> <20210203221628.xgvvxjvh56gyswba@Ergus> <20210204070033.pm4ido4hq7a6twif@Ergus> <83sg6brhyg.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9b7orny.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29537"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 07 06:38:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l8clz-0007bO-2B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 06:38:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8clu-0003EV-ED for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:38:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49250) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8cha-0000qE-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:33:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l8chZ-0006Bv-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:33:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l8chY-0003XR-Ew; Sun, 07 Feb 2021 00:33:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83v9b7orny.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:16:49 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264104 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > We never bother ourselves with such questions; never did. We consider > ourselves to be aware and familiar enough with the Emacs usage > landscape to make such decisions without polling users on each and > every step, because doing so would slow down development to an > unbearable crawl. You're right, but I think we are having a miscommunication. I'm not saying we should poll the users about this. That wasn't the intention at all. Here's the discussion that led up to it: > I'd prefer to find a binding to which people could agree, because that > would leave fewer people unhappy. How do we know that? Users haven't been polled, have they? Emacs users and Emacs have survived for 35+ years without a global binding for `revert-buffer'. Why assume that most users now would be happier if it had a global binding? So I added More than that. Over that time, how often have people asked for such a global binding? My point was that we should not assume there is a lot of demand for this change. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)