From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: POLL: make C-x o transient Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2021 00:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <2EFBBE54-62F4-4373-82D6-DC8750B648BA@kuaishou.com> <87eei9xb5r.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sg6m5mjs.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <8735ykc37u.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <938445fec66b0cdb0c4e@heytings.org> <87y2gchcpm.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18174"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, philipk@posteo.net, gregory@heytings.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 04 06:46:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l7XTI-0004cH-Us for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 06:46:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35472 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l7XTI-0000cg-0K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 00:46:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57164) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l7XRd-0008I8-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 00:44:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l7XRc-0004zE-EL; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 00:44:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l7XRY-00024r-6I; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 00:44:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from chad on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 12:38:14 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263846 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > You can look at your own usage after C-x o (even more telling for people > who aren't using the mouse or mostly dedicated frames) with view-lossage or > via dribble file, but for me, the answer is "because the cursor is hardly > ever in the right spot", even though I do use save-place. I would hazard a > guess that wanting to immediately insert a period or comma is roughly the > same order of commonality as wanting to insert an 'o' (or 'O'). That seems plausible to me, and that supports my point: each self-inserting key that we give a special meaning to after C-x o is one additional nuisance. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)