From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:17:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <56435592-d2d0-5fb6-977f-01e1931da835@gmx.at> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czyvkts6.fsf@gnu.org> <87bleetirr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2hhri3n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn2tkfg8.fsf@gnu.org> <871rf7ippu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6trg6mc.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8f951f.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfdacapo.fsf@gnu.org> <83wnwra15u.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8i23fht.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11023"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 07:18:22 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxl6M-0002lE-7Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 07:18:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58396 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxl6L-0006y3-8N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:18:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxl5Y-000686-8U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:17:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48604) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxl5X-0005t9-8Z; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:17:31 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kxl5V-0002dH-VL; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:17:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: (emacs-devel@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262730 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > One of the things Richard had in mind in his proposal was "poll the users > and see who likes [the new behavior] _and why_". Perhaps I misunderstood > what he meant, but for me "the users" is much broader than "people who > track the Emacs development". I've made several different proposals. One of them includes that step. They're all aimed at trying to stop changes in default behavior from getting intentionally installed without giving at least the people on emacs-devel a chance to object before it is in a release. I realize that sometimes bug fixes cause a UI change as an unintentional byproduct. That's a different issue and I am not trying to do address it. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)