From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:49:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: <6193374b-a60d-ba82-91b5-afdede18e3bb@yandex.ru> <72871d3a-3b6a-d6fd-01cc-4248f817923c@yandex.ru> <801f93f3-8c1f-5f5f-6351-e1169bc309ae@yandex.ru> <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14501"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 07 08:50:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxQ46-0003eW-Oz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 08:50:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39504 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxQ45-0002A1-QO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:50:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxQ2t-00015F-2K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:49:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxQ2s-0000dL-Jj; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:49:22 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kxQ2p-0004p6-Nb; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:49:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 06 Jan 2021 21:26:37 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262650 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Suppose I want to download a potentially non-free package to study its > code, or even just to understand with what kind of license it is > distributed (since you say the site itself doesn't tell) -- is this > "verboten" as well in Jean Louis's interpretation of what a Free > Software follower should and shouldn't do? The GNU Project would not criticize anyone for that. Indeed, we don't generally criticize users for running nonfree programs. And we don't claim the power to "forbid" anything (except for GPL violations). You're condemning things which don't have to do with us. The issue at hand is not about what users are allowed to do. And Jean's message was not about what users are allowed to do. We are talking about what WE should, and shouldn't, say to the public in Emacs and other GNU packages. If you look once again at the References node, you'll see what this is about. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)