From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 00:02:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czyvkts6.fsf@gnu.org> <87bleetirr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2hhri3n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn2tkfg8.fsf@gnu.org> <871rf7ippu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6trg6mc.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8f951f.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfdacapo.fsf@gnu.org> <83wnwsbuwp.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtxo4tph.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32473"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, stefankangas@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 06 06:04:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kx0zr-0008KI-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 06:04:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46640 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx0zq-0003qa-3Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 00:04:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx0yK-0001Aj-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 00:03:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52665) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx0yK-0004lH-4w; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 00:03:00 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kx0y8-0004aU-Np; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 00:02:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 04 Jan 2021 12:17:41 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262568 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > IME a week is not sufficient: > - Many users don't update from `master` on a daily basis. > - I `git fetch` daily from `master`, but I don't restart my Emacs > sessions all the time (hell, I just tried `M-x emacs-uptime` and this > Gnus-dedicated session "says 184 days, 18 hours, 28 minutes, 38 > seconds"). I update from master every few months. Building it takes a day. Because there are occasional complications, I don't even do git pull unless I'm ready to spend a while dealing with the consequences. I do now know how to deal with those complications, but it may take time. > So I think such changes should be introduced with: > - An explicit announcement. > - A clear way to get back the old behavior. > - A trial period in the order 2-3 months. Fine with me. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)