From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:33:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <83im8qnyca.fsf@gnu.org> <83bleinmse.fsf@gnu.org> <56435592-d2d0-5fb6-977f-01e1931da835@gmx.at> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czyvkts6.fsf@gnu.org> <87bleetirr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2hhri3n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn2tkfg8.fsf@gnu.org> <871rf7ippu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6trg6mc.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8f951f.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfdacapo.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8d6q4q.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35020"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, juri@linkov.net To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 07:37:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfyb-00091U-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 07:37:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfya-0002QZ-QV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:37:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfur-00078k-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:34:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfur-0002yN-3g; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:34:01 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfun-0000ZM-Rn; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:33:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87im8d6q4q.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 04 Jan 2021 09:52:05 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262496 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Three out of five Emacs maintainers have now weighed in (at some length, > in total), that they don't think your proposal would be helpful in > practice, so I think it's time to let this go. We can't "let it go". A combination of our practices adds up to a system that will install some UI changes without having much of a discussion about it. And then, once they are released, it is "too late" to argue to revert them. There are many ways we could fix this, but we need to fix it. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)