From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:25:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <43b24209-fa65-0e26-7cbd-f99175a7ffd8@gmx.at> <87wnx7j5is.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83im8qnyca.fsf@gnu.org> <83bleinmse.fsf@gnu.org> <56435592-d2d0-5fb6-977f-01e1931da835@gmx.at> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czyvkts6.fsf@gnu.org> <87bleetirr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2hhri3n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn2tkfg8.fsf@gnu.org> <871rf7ippu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6trg6mc.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtxqcauz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33524"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 07:27:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfor-0008cb-78 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 07:27:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55248 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfoq-0002qC-8r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:27:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47644) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfn8-0002Kv-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfn7-0007Mf-Ld; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:26:01 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kwfn5-0004US-7F; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:25:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83mtxqcauz.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 03 Jan 2021 17:13:08 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262490 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That is true, but it may not be a problem. To get useful results, we > > don't need most of the community to switch. It is enough to get > > answers from a variety of users. > Which users should they be, and how do we find them and reach out to > them? One obvious way is to post an announcement on various mailing lists, asking people to repost it. People will respond. > They should definitely be users who have the just-released version > installed, which is why I mentioned the observation that the process > of upgrading to a new version is slow and takes many moons. That's why I suggest waiting before we ask. > Let's say we have half a dozen of such features, and we need to wait > for the answers for a few months about each one of them. Who can have > a long enough attention span to manage such a polling system? I propose a distributed system which needs no management. The people who advocate changing the default to enable a given feature will probably speak up about it. We just need a rule about the minimum time to wait after the release. If they don't speak up, that suggests that having the new option is sufficient ;-}. > who can > keep track of all those features even though we could switch branches > and release a couple of versions in-between? Those little turns in the road won't intefere with their memory of where they want to go. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)