From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 00:17:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <43b24209-fa65-0e26-7cbd-f99175a7ffd8@gmx.at> <87wnx7j5is.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83im8qnyca.fsf@gnu.org> <83bleinmse.fsf@gnu.org> <56435592-d2d0-5fb6-977f-01e1931da835@gmx.at> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czyvkts6.fsf@gnu.org> <87bleetirr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2hhri3n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn2tkfg8.fsf@gnu.org> <871rf7ippu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6trg6mc.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8f951f.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfdacapo.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15175"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, juri@linkov.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 06:21:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kwIJ6-0003pB-8B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 06:21:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49164 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwIJ5-0006Xi-AL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 00:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45182) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwIFI-0003bk-Vs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 00:17:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwIFH-0006US-UO; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 00:17:31 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kwIFE-0006ga-Ss; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 00:17:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83lfdacapo.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 03 Jan 2021 17:16:19 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262395 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > However, I see no reason to single out emacs-devel as the only medium > suitable for such discussions. The Emacs issue tracker is another > valid medium for that. It may be "valid" in principle, but it is no a wise choice for changes in the Emacs command interface. If we want to be confident that users will notice plans for changes, and say if they object, before the change is in a release, we are obliged to help users notice. > > * Some time later -- it need not be soon -- poll the users and see who > > likes it _and why_. Maybe change the default. > Volunteers are welcome to step forward and take upon themselves the > responsibilities for conducting such polls. Failing that, I don't see > how we can promise doing this as a matter of routine. That's not difficult. People who want to make the new behavior the default will be motivated to conduct the inquiry. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)