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From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, juri@linkov.net, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2021 06:14:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1kvIOG-00011a-4w@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fed43c20-1c46-4cc9-b02a-b9f48f10c035@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:54:03 -0800 (PST))

   More and more (my impression), things, even major
   things, are getting changed through just bug reports.
   Dunno whether that's intentionally to avoid wider
   discussion, but it has that effect.

I share that impression as well, it does seems that the modus operandi
is to change first, discuss later.  Which causes friction between all
parties -- it is not all that much to ask that changes to existing
behaviour is done by discussion first, in a small group to feel what
the reprecautions might be.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-01 11:14 UTC|newest]

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2020-12-31 16:54                   ` Recentish C-s M-y change Drew Adams
2020-12-31 17:18                     ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-01-01 11:14                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt [this message]
2021-01-01 12:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02  5:34                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-02  7:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-03  6:01                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-03 15:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-04  5:17                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 15:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-04 17:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-04 18:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-04 18:22                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-01-03  6:01                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-03 15:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-01 22:47                       ` chad
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2020-12-31 17:02                         ` Drew Adams
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2021-01-01 19:10                         ` Drew Adams
2020-12-28  1:09 Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-28  8:45 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-28 17:19   ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-28 17:30   ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-28 17:50     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-12-29  6:05       ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29  0:46   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-29  9:34     ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-29 17:25       ` Drew Adams
2020-12-30  4:57         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-30  5:26         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 15:28           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-01  7:21             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01  9:15               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-02  5:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-02  9:03                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-02  9:27                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-02 11:55                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-03  5:58                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04  0:04                           ` Drew Adams
2021-01-05  6:28                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05 16:30                               ` Drew Adams
2021-01-06  5:14                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06  9:41                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-08  6:17                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04  9:23                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-05  6:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06  0:13                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-07  7:39                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01 19:12               ` Drew Adams
2020-12-29 18:35       ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-29 19:20         ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-30  2:45           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-30  5:08           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-30  9:32             ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-30 10:08               ` Andreas Röhler
2020-12-30 11:13               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-30 15:12                 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-31 15:18                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-31 17:09                     ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-31 19:09                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-04 17:50                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-04 18:22                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-13 18:19                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-13 19:34                               ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-01-14  8:44                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-14 15:34                                   ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-01-27 22:01                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-28  8:58                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-30  5:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-30 10:12                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-02  5:36                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-30 10:42                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-30 18:37                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-31  5:54                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 15:29                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-01  7:21                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01  8:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02  5:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-02  7:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-30 15:08               ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-30 17:32               ` Drew Adams
2020-12-31  5:54               ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 10:44                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-31 11:18                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-31 11:29                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-01 10:53                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-01 11:14                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-01 12:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-01 12:41                             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-31 14:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-31 15:42                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-31 16:41                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-01  7:20                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-31 15:48                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-31 15:29                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-30 15:05           ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-12-30  5:04         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-29  6:01   ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29  6:14     ` Drew Adams
2020-12-30  9:33     ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-31  5:54       ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-29  5:56 ` Richard Stallman

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