From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:23:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <838s9zavcx.fsf@gnu.org> <87im92nmd6.fsf@gnus.org> <83y2hx91u1.fsf@gnu.org> <87czz9enc6.fsf@gmail.com> <83sg858yjr.fsf@gnu.org> <878s9wetdb.fsf@gmail.com> <81fd6785-f9b5-4926-9363-1d63f8672599@default> <5e031a6e-f94e-495e-a8cf-9e9db1544dbe@default> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36405"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 21 11:24:07 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krIMI-0009Mv-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:24:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42700 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krIMH-00019i-Bz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:24:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krILf-0000YJ-6A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:23:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krILe-000411-BM; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:23:26 -0500 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1krILb-0004gK-PK; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:23:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 20 Dec 2020 17:11:57 -0800 (PST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261378 Archived-At: Arguing back and forth who was or wasn't snarky isn't useful, it is simpler and far more productive to simply say sorry if it came out that way, no matter if it was ones fault or not and move on. So instead of assuming that someone is trying to cause a bar fight at every turn, lets assume that people are doing their best? Right now this is escalting based based on someone having percieved something as unkind or an attack, instead of just accepting that they at the time read it as such -- for whatever reason, and moving forward.