From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 00:47:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <877dpjp30g.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zh2fnmwq.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v9d3nkxk.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22741"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: abrochard@gmx.com, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 21 06:47:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krE33-0005m8-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 06:47:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52730 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krE32-0003lA-8D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 00:47:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54034) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krE2S-0003Jc-Pq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 00:47:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krE2S-0006Lx-C3; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 00:47:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1krE2Q-0002lH-Li; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 00:47:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Dimech on Sun, 20 Dec 2020 12:13:46 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261371 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I wonder whether the survey stems from lack of vision of emacs > admin and developers. For instance, Gcc has a Development Plan. > Suggestions for changes to the plan are discussed on the Gcc > mailing list and can be approved or rejected by the Gcc Steering > Committee. How about Emacs? GCC has many developers who are paid by various companies. That makes it easier to make plans and actually carry them out. The Emacs contributors are all volunteers, so we can't tell anyone what to do. We can only exhort and apply naked emotional pressure, which works only sometimes. I've been trying for more than 10 years to urge people to work toward giving Emacs the document capabilities of a word processor, but I have not convinced people to do this work. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)