From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 01:36:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <838s9zavcx.fsf@gnu.org> <87im92nmd6.fsf@gnus.org> <83y2hx91u1.fsf@gnu.org> <87czz9enc6.fsf@gmail.com> <83sg858yjr.fsf@gnu.org> <878s9wetdb.fsf@gmail.com> <81fd6785-f9b5-4926-9363-1d63f8672599@default> <5e031a6e-f94e-495e-a8cf-9e9db1544dbe@default> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24146"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 20 07:37:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kqsLT-0006Aw-95 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 07:37:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38606 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqsLS-0000ei-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 01:37:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqsKn-0000DC-Nc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 01:36:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqsKn-0004XI-7h; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 01:36:49 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kqsKl-0006fA-31; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 01:36:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5e031a6e-f94e-495e-a8cf-9e9db1544dbe@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 22:36:31 -0800 (PST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261306 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I read these words > Nothing, except that people have been conditioned to expect that > changes in options get saved automatically, I assume you mean _some_ people. and saw that things were getting snarky. "I assume you mean" is a snarky way of disagreeing if it isn't reporting a typing error. So I said, Would each you please take a deep breath, and respond more kindly from now on? I guess you took that as an attack, rather than as an exhortation, because you responded by throwing that perceived attack back at me: Would you please take a deep breath? I did as you suggested, and on second reading I agree that Robert Pluim's words were not unkind. They seemed that way when I first read them. Sorry, Robert. You continued with I don't think there was anything unkind in either what Robert said or in my reply to him. Did you actually read what each of us said? Of course. But only the parts that I cited. I didn't read the whole messages, or any of the whole messages in that subthread, because I'm not participating in discussing that particular question. If I wanted to participate, I'd have to read the points made about it. I decided it was easier just to say nothing about it. > The point > of my emphasis on "some" was elaborated in the rest of > what I said, I'm sure it was. But I'm talking about the attack (against Robert) that I perceived in the first line. Not about the substantive point it was the start of. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)