From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:34:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33119"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 16 06:36:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPU8-0008Tf-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 06:36:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42628 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPU7-0003jo-7O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:36:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPSo-0002uV-Qa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPSo-0003c3-Ht; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPSj-000898-Fd; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:34:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:30:20 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260950 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Of 7.3K respondents, 5K disable toolbars, which is more than two > thirds. So perhaps toolbars should default to off? I know toolbars > were all the rage in the 90s, but that's apparently not the case now. > Opinions? The people who responded to that survey are certainly not representative of all users. They were selected for being users of certain web sites. That doesn't imply that most users want toolbars. Maybe hardly anyone wants toolbars. So here's an idea. We could make Emacs display, where the toolbar would have been, a question: Would you like a toolbar here or not? Yes No If you click Yes, that customizes to permanently turn on the toolbar. If you click No, that customizes to permanently turn off the toolbar. Each one could offer to click on a web page where you could register your preference. That way we would get a complete sample. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)