From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-gnu elpa issue tracking Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:59:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201209125516.lenqswi7fhiscbr2@E15-2016.optimum.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8261"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, boruch_baum@gmx.com To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 13 06:00:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1koJUU-00023N-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 06:00:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56370 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koJUT-0000AL-Vl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 00:00:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42274) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koJTN-0007j8-KK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:59:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koJTN-0001Fq-Bu; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:59:05 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1koJTL-0006wM-73; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 23:59:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Sat, 12 Dec 2020 22:33:27 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260742 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Bigger picture there is that Github made plans to trap developres to > depend of Github only by providing various server side apps that > exists only in Github. That is computing for users on the server. They > call it Marketplace: https://github.com/marketplace Most of these facilities of GitHub are SaaSS; we urge users to reject them and release free programs to do these jobs. > - Slack + GitHub, Connect your code without leaving Slack Slack is not SaaSS -- it is a service that requires running a nonfree client program. Therefore we condemn it. See stallman.org/slack.html. > Please somebody make me wrong, but majority of those server side > services recommended by Github are computing for users especially for > free software developers, and all of them are proprietary software, > right? If I understand right, the software they use to implement this is _private_. We do not know anything about it. It might include some free software and some nonfree. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)