unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: bandali@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: NonGNU ELPA
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 23:47:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ki9Bj-0007Zb-Iv@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmHHjha1EqRrPW0T9r+u-GuxhPLkxh7_BOuQwQ=4u66qw@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Tue, 24 Nov 2020 12:05:19 -0800)

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > > We will need to work out the details of this by doing it.
  > > What we need to do now is add packages carefully, one by one,
  > > paying attention to the arrangements we make for each one.

  > This implies that we should first contact the package maintainer telling
  > them that we are interested in adding it to GNU ELPA.  I think that
  > could be useful, as it's also an opportunity for us to inform the
  > package maintainer about our plans, to build a relationship and to avoid
  > surprising anyone.

Yes indeed.

  > I have three questions:

  > Would it be useful to prepare a template for such a communication?

Yes, definitely.

Would you like to write a draft of this, and show it to me and
the other Emacs maintainers?  Privately at first.

  > Could we prepare a canonical URL for the GNU ELPA package
  > requirements/rules outlined in a previous email by Richard?  I assume it
  > would be placed under https://elpa.nongnu.org/requirements.htm or
  > something similar, once Amin can get that hostname working.

Yes, we should do that.  It should state the full rules, which
I've posted here, adding some details from my previous message.
I'll do make that and send it to you.

  > Should we add a special file to nongnu.git for recording the kind of
  > arrangement we decide on?

Yes.  One question is where to put that information:
in one single file with an item for each package, or in a
file for each package in that package's information?

(What is the structure of the archive?
Does each package have a page?
Does each package have a subdirectory?
How are the files presented for download?)

                               I imagine that our ideal case would be number
  > one above.

Yes.

                Perhaps we would only need to note anything down when we
  > have a different arrangement from the first case.

No, that would risk misunderstandings in the harmful direction:
that we would believe the package is being taken care of by someone
else who has not in fact accepted that responsibility.

To avoid this. we should always indicate explicitly who has taken
responsibility for the updating of each package in NonGNU ELPA.



-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-26  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87mtzt6qhf.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1kbaeV-0002fw-Bm@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <87v9eg4gm5.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <E1kbzB3-0000P3-EJ@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <87o8k7yt7n.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]         ` <E1kciiO-0007Vp-Ms@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <87ima56h1a.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-11-21 19:02             ` NonGNU ELPA Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 19:10               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-21 19:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-21 19:42                 ` Amin Bandali
2020-11-21 19:41               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-21 21:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 21:54                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-21 23:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-04  3:52                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-04  7:43                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-04 13:59                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-05  5:21                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-21 19:54               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-11-21 21:18                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 21:57                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-21 22:21                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-11-21 23:19                     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-21 23:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 23:22                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-21 23:32                     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-11-22  0:30                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  0:40                         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-11-22  5:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-22 15:03                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-23  4:44                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-21 23:11               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-21 23:33               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-22  0:40                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  2:07                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-22 19:49                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  5:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-24 20:05                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-25  5:52                     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-26  4:47                     ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2020-11-26 14:19                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-27  9:14                         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-27 13:56                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-27 15:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 14:59                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-27 14:56                         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-27 15:21                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-27 16:00                             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-28  8:47                               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-27  8:54                       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-29  5:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-29  9:22                           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-30  4:47                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-29  5:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-29  8:59                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-30  4:48                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-22  4:58               ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-23 11:09               ` Zhu Zihao
2020-11-23 15:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-05 11:45               ` Daniel Martín
2020-12-05 13:14                 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-05 13:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-05 18:37                   ` Daniel Martín
2020-12-05 21:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 11:59 NonGNU ELPA and release frequency Antoine Kalmbach
2020-10-24  3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-24  7:08   ` Jean Louis
2020-10-24  8:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-24 12:06       ` Jean Louis
2020-10-24 12:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-24 14:12           ` Jean Louis
2020-10-24 14:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-24 14:21               ` NonGNU ELPA Jean Louis
2020-10-24 14:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-24 14:25     ` NonGNU ELPA and release frequency Antoine Kalmbach
2020-10-24 14:29       ` NonGNU ELPA Jean Louis
2020-10-24 14:40         ` Antoine Kalmbach
2020-10-24 16:37           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-24 17:05             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-24 18:00               ` Antoine Kalmbach
2020-10-24 19:12                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-25 11:40                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-25 12:20                     ` Antoine Kalmbach
2020-10-25  3:48     ` NonGNU ELPA and release frequency Richard Stallman
2020-10-25 14:54       ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-10-26  4:10         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-26 10:35           ` NonGNU ELPA Jean Louis
2020-10-27  3:47             ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-09-11  4:21 Richard Stallman
2020-09-12 22:51 ` Tim Van den Langenbergh
2020-09-14  3:50   ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-14  8:23     ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-15  4:38       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-15  5:01         ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-09-15  6:41           ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-09-16  5:10           ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-15 15:07         ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-09-15 15:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-15 17:20             ` Thomas Fitzsimmons

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=E1ki9Bj-0007Zb-Iv@fencepost.gnu.org \
    --to=rms@gnu.org \
    --cc=bandali@gnu.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca \
    --cc=stefankangas@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).