From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: prettify symbols question Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 05:15:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kluzkma.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgyziu3.fsf@gnu.org> <83zh3my2ls.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8k1yb0x.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33986"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 13 11:16:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdW8P-0008k8-Is for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:16:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48868 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdW8O-0007NX-0W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 05:16:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60500) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdW7V-0006rL-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 05:15:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdW7U-0003Nf-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 05:15:52 -0500 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdW7Q-0004JJ-V7; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 05:15:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83o8k1yb0x.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:24:30 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259127 Archived-At: > The Lisp Machine character set Emacs doesn't support such an encoding/charset, does it? Maybe it should? No, not yet. I can see about doing that. Is this character set documented somewhere? The Lisp Machine Manual I have seems to say that \210 is BS or Overstrike, not LAMBDA (https://tumbleweed.nu/r/lm-3/uv/chinual.html#The-Character-Set). That is how the Lisp Machine sees things (there is an implicit conversion of the files from the host to the Lisp Machine when read over Chaosnet); e.g, newline is #o215, but when files are stored on a Unix host they have been translated so that newline #o215 becomes #o12, similar for tab, etc so things are viewable on ASCII systems. So there are two encodings, one is native to the Lisp Machine (where #o215 is left as is), and the other one for UNIX (where #o215, etc, are translated).