From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:48:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4a1188f8-9864-54c0-ae6f-5f32102d9757@gmx.com> <20201011073553.GA6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201011120840.GC2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201011125031.GC6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201012050418.GZ2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201013052736.GE31408@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201016130235.06218dae@argon> <87eelvplvh.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7189"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mve1@runbox.com, bugs@gnu.support, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Philip K." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 05:50:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kUMBk-0001mF-Ne for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 05:50:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46122 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUMBj-0000Dh-Pb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:50:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUM9h-0006KQ-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUM9g-00077s-FR; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:48:16 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kUM9e-0005Kf-K7; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:48:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87eelvplvh.fsf@posteo.net> (philipk@posteo.net) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258091 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This is a weaker suggestion: Maybe packages could have a tag to signal > that they are related to proprietary software, that could be then > displayed both via list-packages and describe-package? This approach depends on any number of people that we don't know to include a special marker whenever they release packages that lead the user to nonfree software. Since these people eapparently don't agree with our basic ideas about such packages, I don't think we could count on them to do that. > > EP is not meaningful to those who don't know what it means. But > > neither is ELPA. People understand it only if they have been told. > > So EP is no worse than ELPA. > > > > WDYT? > There shouldn't be any reason for ELPA to rename itself, it should be > clear that MELPA is not official, as it is not pre-configured. I have a feeling we are miscommunicating somehow here. The point of the renaming is simply to avoid a natural confusion in the minds of people. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)