From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20201016142436.187b8210@argon> <20201016152523.6fdfef65@argon> <6142a27f-c53b-35bf-1038-5f047395e868@yandex.ru> <20201016204531.77fab05b@argon> <725aa7c4-321f-4483-5a21-a148ff7f119b@yandex.ru> <20201016213312.603595fe@argon> <20201017054446.GW11061@protected.rcdrun.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20971"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mve1@runbox.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, dgutov@yandex.ru To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 18 06:17:58 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kU08s-0005Km-CT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 06:17:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34044 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kU08r-0004le-Db for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kU07l-0003ap-BT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38450) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kU07l-0001K6-1d; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kU07j-0001A1-Mp; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Thibaut Verron on Sat, 17 Oct 2020 08:42:16 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257994 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Surely you don't want to convince them to use an inferior product just > for purity of software? Are you defining "superior" and "inferior" based on practical considerations only? Most people think that way; business and the media inculcate that way of thinking. However, the GNU Project follows the values of the free software movement, which hold that most important characteristic of a program is whether it respects the user's freedom or tramples it. If you value your freedom strongly, you will consider any free program better than any nonfree program. Based on these values, switching to a free program is always a step up. The people who use lastpass are probably not supporters of the free software movement. Probably they think that lastpass is better than no program at all. They might thing that lastpass is superior to some free programs. If we want to persuade them of something, we need to argue based on premises they agree with. We may need to make arguments that can persuade even a person who thinks that a nonfree program is a good thing. But we must be careful not to endorse the idea that a nonfree program is a good thing. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)