From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rethinking the design of xwidgets Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:21:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> <835z7e2ouj.fsf@gnu.org> <86v9fet5sg.fsf@akirakyle.com> <83imbe1040.fsf@gnu.org> <86pn5luak4.fsf@akirakyle.com> <83362g27y6.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29860"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, ak@akirakyle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 06:25:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdmX-0007gM-Rc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 06:25:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdmW-0000Qk-Pc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:25:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdjD-0004Eu-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdjC-0003IF-Se; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdjB-0007mr-GI; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:21:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Fri, 16 Oct 2020 15:03:31 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257895 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Of course, I completely understand and agre that Emacs should > prioritize free systems, but in case of resource avialable why not use > it? Depending on what resource it is, and how it would be used, there may or may not be a reason not to use it. > do believe if Elisp > via Emacs let one do some cool visual stuff, like programming some > graphics, and doing drawing in the editor would make it more useful and > more efficient. Also I see it as a one brick in making Emacs more > popular. I personally think it would be super cool to see Emacs do 3D > with Elisp, Would this be a feature that works only if there is nonfree software in your system load? Implementing such a feature would turn Emacs into an inducement for people to choose systems with nonfree software in them. We must not do that! So we cannot include such a feature. In other words, we must have a policy of not enhancing nonfree software. However, the thinkpagds that we can use do have some acceleration. If your feature works usably on an X200 or T400 type machine, then it is ok. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)