From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: splash-screen Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 04:52:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d02ej7bq.fsf@gnus.org> <874knoekki.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu1fb8kb.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24659"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, nicolas.rougier@inria.fr To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 10:53:08 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSQd-0006In-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 10:53:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49598 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSQc-0000yE-9V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 04:53:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSQA-0000Yn-HI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 04:52:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSQ8-00009u-R0; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 04:52:36 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kMSQ6-0001jJ-BM; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 04:52:34 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:34:55 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256521 Archived-At: > > One would think that being told again and again, by various people > > including a current and former Emacs maintainer, that it is an > > unnecessary nuisance, would be such reason. > > Those are opinions, but they are not a rational reason. > These lines are important; to delete them would require > an important reason, and so far no one has shown me any reason, > only opinions. People have produced evidence that _nobody else_ except GNU shows these lines as prominently. That is quite the exaggeration. You showed that some programs don't show it, that is far from "nobody else". But that also doesn't matter, since nobody else implements Emacs either so by similar logic we should stop that What everyone does or doesn't do is never a good critera to copy blindly. Doing things differently is perfectly fine. Including major corporations with much higher budgets than FSF, who might have a lot more to fear/lose from being maliciously sued for "breach of warranty". Good reason to be extra careful, since the FSF doesn't have as much legal heft behind them as those with much higher budgets.