From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:41:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o8ls1vvq.fsf@posteo.net> <20200926145302.sjrwjrguf5ialc25@Ergus> <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40708"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, philipk@posteo.net, jamtlu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 04:45:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMMgl-000AU8-0R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 04:45:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMMgj-0003Ud-TL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMMdM-00087l-G3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:41:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44705) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMMdL-0004rM-So; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:41:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kMMdG-0001SA-W2; Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:41:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:26:33 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256506 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It's very discouraging to see the constant push-back against even the > small and reasonable changes. We do adopt some such changes. Arguing about people's general nature is useless. You can't convince anyone about a general characeristic and arguing trnds to offend. Please focus on a specific proposal you want to try to advance. We can work on it until we reach a form that is ok to adopt. That is how progress is made. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)