From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:23:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <3774c435-60d6-a958-77d1-a831599c85c5@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20894"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: nicola.manca85@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 18 22:19:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJMqW-0005IW-T2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 22:19:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJMqV-0000td-R9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57954) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJLym-0006ai-4I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:23:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55132) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJLyl-0003zj-NY; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:23:31 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kJLyk-0008AM-UC; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:23:31 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Thibaut Verron on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:59:19 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256135 Archived-At: > > On first start, the wizard would offer the option to create an empty > > .emacs and never bother you again. > > > > The issue is that it would bother you on first start, at all. > > On balance this a good thing, IMO. And if you disagree, it will only > bother you once. > > No, it will bother _each_ and _every_ time I start a new Emacs where I > have not done so previously. That is a fairly common situation, both > for new users, but also for experienced users who are the majority of > Emacs users. > > Lets not make Emacs annoying to use, OK? I, for one, would be happy to have a one-click option to set a bunch of reasonable defaults whenever I start Emacs on a new device. And using the splash screen, that exact possibility is also there. So nothing is lost.