From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:31:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <3774c435-60d6-a958-77d1-a831599c85c5@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18312"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: nicola.manca85@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 17 15:33:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIu2M-0004bZ-4W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:33:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40556 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIu2K-0005Pj-OW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:33:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55338) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIu0F-0003Qm-7E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:31:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35952) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIu0E-0004gZ-PJ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kIu0D-0005Uo-UU; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:31:10 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Thibaut Verron on Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:26:56 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255992 Archived-At: > Is it such a big deal? > > To have a different behaviour form if you have .emacs, and when you do > not? Yes, definitly -- it is fully valid to not have a .emacs file. As opposed to an empty one? Not sure I follow. > In such a situation you just have to click "make my own" if you > want a -q, or the other option to get most or all of the most > common QoL variables already set, and on subsequent starts there > will be an init.el and you won't have the message anymore. > > -q is for "quick" -- which is a different behaviour. I obviously meant -Q, sorry. Sorry, my fault -- -Q is for quick, -q is for no .emacs. But then it still doesn't make sense, if you start with -q then you get a "wizard screen" -- the whole point was to not get it anything different. > > Why not just have it on the splash screen if there is no .emacs; and > > if there is a .emacs remove that blurb. We could add one or two lines > > along the lines of M-x recover-session: > > What's the difference with the original proposal? > > The original proposal read to me that the original splash screen would > be something different when you have .emacs, or when you do not. So is yours, no? No, it is the same splash screen -- just one message more or less (like for file recovery).