From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 23:51:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83imckh9yt.fsf@gnu.org> <83ft7oh63h.fsf@gnu.org> <20200911121919.5oljwsot4g3bm7zq@Ergus> <83a6xwh4o3.fsf@gnu.org> <20200911125744.x7at74mr4dyrcktf@Ergus> <83zh5wfor3.fsf@gnu.org> <92d20285-2141-2ef3-da09-432aeb3ecec4@yandex.ru> <20200911211709.v2o6mbbhb6oz4o3b@Ergus> <4d7167ad-26c1-49a6-5613-3f44d48decff@yandex.ru> <20200912020142.llwb3l6gugnnygh2@Ergus> <165bb31c-5440-fff2-643f-0bbb36243a2a@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28441"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rekado@elephly.net, ghe@sdf.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 14 05:52:33 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHfXd-0007Jq-FV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 05:52:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45474 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHfXc-0003WD-Hb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 23:52:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46718) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHfWp-0002WZ-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 23:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHfWo-0004Zl-Tv; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 23:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kHfWl-0008Mj-JK; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 23:51:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <165bb31c-5440-fff2-643f-0bbb36243a2a@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 13 Sep 2020 13:24:12 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255601 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > (The bindings for undo ensure it can be typed with just one > > shift key on all usual terminals.) > C-_, one of the two existing bindings for 'undo', has the exact same > problem. Not on a tty. On a tty you can type Ctrl-minus and you get that character. Undo has two 1-key bindings, C-_ for ttys and C-/ for consoles with the full space of input characters. Each requires just one shift key on the consoles it is meant for. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)