From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 00:06:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sgbsb0eb.fsf@gmail.com> <20200909165723.kdnwicwvplmezusr@Ergus> <20200910102000.2t6tsju745xutg7u@Ergus> <20200910110832.ko66gqnqo4l664d6@Ergus> <20200911134225.zhnlq7cdhmu2iraj@Ergus> <20200911221435.go7b5kz2zcvxp2ft@Ergus> <83sgbnecka.fsf@gnu.org> <835z8jdycd.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2260"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, ghe@sdf.org, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, tecosaur@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 06:07:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJIy-0000UF-L0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:07:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34870 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJIx-0000Rw-Lu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 00:07:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJHb-00075z-OL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 00:06:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJHb-0000xZ-E2; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 00:06:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJHZ-0003n2-0j; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 00:06:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <835z8jdycd.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:32:50 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255430 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'm not sure a complete reshuffle of mouse-related bindings, of the > kind that seems to be implied here, is really a good idea in Emacs. I think we should consider offering a reshuffled mode if that will make some new users like Emacs much better. The reason I think so is that the definitions of mouse clicks is largely orthogonal to the keyboard commands. So it would not be a lot of work to develop this, and even less to maintain it. How about if someone implements it so people can try it? I think the hardest part will be to modify the various mode-specific C-Mouse-3 (Mouse-3 in this mode) menus to conditionally include basic editing commands. Here's an idea to make that simpler: Define augment-mouse-menu to take a menu specification not containung the basic editing commands, and optionally add those depending on the interface choice. Or perhaps define-mouse-menu to do that, and then put it on the proper mouse click depending on the interface choice. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)