From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 23:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83lfhhijbl.fsf@gnu.org> <871rj9uz12.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <1d991f36-1cc7-d801-6cfb-bfd5541efc77@yandex.ru> <515af795-9cb7-b92f-340c-d3a80645684e@yandex.ru> <20200911132300.6xhbdonq2yeamlee@Ergus> <20200911191243.6icsbs3aiboz44hl@Ergus> <0f68a6aa-58c8-4b7b-92be-639927d7084c@default> <20200911200755.o44atstobajsrdtv@Ergus> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13526"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, arthur.miller@live.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 06:00:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJBl-0003RW-MA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:00:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57008 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJBk-0005sT-OV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 00:00:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48652) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJBC-0005Js-Bx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 23:59:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJBB-0008P0-9B; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 23:59:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kHJB9-0007rt-Ea; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 23:59:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200911200755.o44atstobajsrdtv@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 22:07:55 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255428 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I haven't find any reference to mouse-3 anywhere and I have been looking > for alternatives like that for months. Actually I tried many of > them... I confused Mouse-3 with C-Mouse-3 in my previous responses. Please pardon my memory. I am getting the impression that Emacs differs from "modern" editors in that they put the menu on Mouse-3 (no Ctrl). In Emacs, Mouse-3 is an editing command. I think we patterned the Emacs bindings of the mouse keys Mouse-1, Mouse-2 and Mouse-3 after what was the standard in X Windows around 1990. We could create a global minor mode in which they do what "modern" editors do -- if that is a well-defined thing. This would include putting the local menu on Mouse-3 (as well as on C-Mouse-3). Is that something that new users would make new users much happier? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)