From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:16:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y2lkb6kb.fsf@gmail.com> <9A4FA038-CCFD-45DF-8B57-E348AFF951D9@gmail.com> <87sgbsb0eb.fsf@gmail.com> <87h7s6c31d.fsf@gmail.com> <87mu1xrjqw.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <48ed4897-356c-4669-a330-1fdb5d65402b@default> <83lfhhijbl.fsf@gnu.org> <871rj9uz12.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31757"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, self@gkayaalp.com, ghe@sdf.org, eliz@gnu.org, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, tecosaur@gmail.com To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 06:18:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGaVt-00087t-Sd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 06:18:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50802 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGaVs-0007mg-V4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:18:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGaUJ-00042h-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:16:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46556) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGaUJ-0001cn-HC; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:16:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGaUG-0004lJ-5M; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:16:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871rj9uz12.fsf@gkayaalp.com> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?G?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 00:01:29 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255085 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > There was an idea in another thread that we could ask major distros to > not disable menu bar, and I said I could create the issues, but I though > I’d wait for some of the maintainers (dis)agree first. What do you > think, would such a thing be useful? I think that would be a good idea. Another idea: code that runs for beginning users could tell the user, To learn what is available in Emacs, we recommend you type C-u M-x menu-bar-mode RET and then look at all the entries in each menu. Maybe C-h t could do that. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)