From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 22:36:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36374"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 04:37:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGCSJ-0009IK-RK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 04:36:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42984 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGCSI-0005Kj-TV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 22:36:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGCRm-0004Yp-LP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 22:36:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48829) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGCRl-0003Jj-T5; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 22:36:25 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGCRk-0007Ge-Fn; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 22:36:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?G?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F?= Kayaalp on Tue, 08 Sep 2020 21:48:18 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254940 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Anecdotally, I’ve picked up and quit Emacs multiple times before I > decided to stay with it. And it’s been more than 6 years now that I’m > using it for the good part of my computing. What was puzzling and weird > to me back then is useful and essential to me now. I think this demonstrates that someone for whom Emacs can ondeed be useful may be unable recognize its usefulness when trying it out. I know it was long ago, but can you remember anything importantly useful about Emacs that you didn't recognize in those first attempts? Does anyone else have an idea what things those might be? We might be able to figure out better ways of demonstrating them to potential satisfied Emacsers. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)