From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <87wo14v7wf.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13730"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 05:48:07 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr5Z-0003QK-CQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 05:48:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59406 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr5Y-0005C8-Ew for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr2f-00004v-IL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54426) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr2f-0004sq-5i; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr2W-00052f-7G; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:44:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wo14v7wf.fsf@gmail.com> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=C3?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= on Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:13:04 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254840 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Come to think of it, this is a bit of a counter argument against my > proposal: if we accept new defaults we must be ready to run Emacs -Q's > that have them. If the new defaults are to include, say, vim-like > keybindings (ugh!), then maintainers are going to have lots of pain. > This was a bit of an extreme example, but I guess what I'm saying is > that we should still criteriously choose new defaults. I agree, the changes in defaults must not be drastic. But we might still find it useful to be able to specify the defaults from version N if we don't like the subsequent changes. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)