From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:57:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> <87tuwabm5a.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6y2nwo1.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgbt939z.fsf@gnus.org> <20200907140332.ixzkgly2o5e7fmmb@Ergus> <83363todcc.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19419"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 04:58:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTpd-0004xT-4t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:58:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45808 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTpa-0004gv-MG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTp8-0004Gh-PI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTp8-0007Vr-8h; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTp5-0002Nk-WE; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:57:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83363todcc.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 07 Sep 2020 17:45:07 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254691 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The waste of effort is that those who invested them don't come back to > us and don't suggest to integrate those features upstream. Granted, > such integration would need some additional shims and infrastructure, > to adapt the extra features to less monolith audience. But those > adaptations should not be very hard to come up with, so the lack of > communications is unfortunate. You may be right. I think it depends on what sort of changes they make, and I have no idea what sort they are. It might be that some of their changes are features we'd like to merge in as optional features, or new options, while others are not. Maybe they would be willing to contribute certain code that we would like since it could reduce the continuing maintenance work they do. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)