From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:43:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> <87tuwabm5a.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6y2nwo1.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgbt939z.fsf@gnus.org> <20200907140332.ixzkgly2o5e7fmmb@Ergus> <20200907155447.b675o4idci5dpxxo@Ergus> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27763"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 18:44:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFKFV-00076J-VE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 18:44:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51262 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFKFV-0004ZC-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50096) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFKF0-00049n-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:43:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFKEx-0000UQ-Jt; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:43:36 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kFKEw-0004BG-UT; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:43:35 -0400 In-reply-to: <20200907155447.b675o4idci5dpxxo@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Mon, 7 Sep 2020 17:54:47 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254661 Archived-At: >Or does "convert vanilla emacs in a "doomed like" experience" means >"without using Doom Emacs, by doing everything by oneself"? In that >case it's not wrong, it is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as if he >had written "it would have taken me more time to develop Emacs by >myself than to develop Visual Studio by myself". If a software we develop require a complex layer like doom (which could be seen as a big set of patches) to be "attractive" for many users. Emacs definitely doesn't require a complex layer like doom / spaceemacs.