From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:46:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bljki71n.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87364wxlec.fsf@gnus.org> <87imdsgmlw.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <871rkfhkhc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <875z9p5hnc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87364pbkn0.fsf@gnus.org> <87lfihe0zf.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <874kp55l8t.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40348"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 23 06:47:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k9huS-000AOU-Dp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 06:47:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39600 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9huR-0007TO-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9htf-0006zf-Hf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:46:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49185) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9htf-0005Ze-9E; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:46:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k9hte-0000pn-Db; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:46:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 21 Aug 2020 17:16:46 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254132 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I am completely lost here. What legal responsibility is involved? > > > This is an answer that developers cannot give you. It's a question that > only a lawyer can answer. I think we are failing to communicate. You seem to have got an idea that there is some legal responsibility involved. Unless you consulted a lawyer, you must have got some idea from published information. I don't have time to peruse the various pages what Google has published hoping to find the crucial passages. I asked people to show me the specific requirements that are crucial for this scenario. You have showed me some passages of that text. If you send me the whole text that you got them out of, that would help me. Maybe someone already sent me that text. I am so behind on email that I might have received a few days ago and not yet seen it. I am trying to do many jobs at once. > Google's terms of service for OAuth services are available at > https://developers.google.com/terms . I will fetch that page and see what I get. > take the risk of being sued by Google for having knowingly violated their > terms of service, even if Google tolerates (at the moment at least) that > free software projects violate these TOS. A priori, I doubt there is any real risk, beyond the possibility Google would invalidate the app key. But that is a question I can discuss with a lawyer if it comes up. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)