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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 23:38:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1k8xsW-0005FB-Em@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.2008181045480394.27168@sdf.lonestar.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:15:12 +0000)

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > Well, this is what happened for Kmail, Thunderbird and others.  The person 
  > who applies to have an app approved by Google becomes legally responsible 
  > of the use of the OAuth credentials received at the end of the process. 
  > In the case of an app that is used by many people around the world, this 
  > should be a legal person, not an individual.

I don't follow that.  "Should" stands for a moral imperative, but I don't
see where the imperative would come from here.  Perhaps you're basing
the conclusion on reasons I don't know about.

  > Yes, if they agree to take the legal responsibility of the use of these 
  > credentials, and if they pay if Google wants to have the code of the 
  > program reviewed by security experts.

I am completely lost here.  What legal responsibility is involved?

I've asked for someone to please tell me, in brief terms, the concrete
reqwuirements for issuing an app key to something like GNUS, but I have not
seen a reply stating them.

People have sent me URLs pointing at what I suspect are long texts,
some of which might answer this question.  The obvious way for me to
find out those answers is to go read those.  Obvious, but not
feasible.  I am totally overloaded, and (unusually) I even have
deadlines.  I can't do that the inefficient way.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21  3:38 UTC|newest]

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2020-08-06  3:45                         ` Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail Richard Stallman
2020-08-06  5:51                           ` 황병희
2020-08-06 17:08                             ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-06 17:32                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-06 18:09                                 ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-11 13:43                                   ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-11 13:55                                     ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-11 15:19                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11 15:22                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11 16:02                                         ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-12  2:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-12  5:29                                         ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-07  2:56                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-07 17:02                                 ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-07 18:37                                   ` Michael Anckaert
2020-08-08  0:01                                     ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-08  0:53                                       ` T.V Raman
2020-08-08  3:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-08  3:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-08  3:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-09  7:59                           ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-09  8:40                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-09 10:02                               ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-10  3:23                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-10  6:43                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-10  9:03                                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-10 11:36                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11  3:30                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-09 10:06                               ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-09 10:36                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-09 10:57                                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-09 11:03                                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-09 13:06                                       ` 황병희
2020-08-09 16:04                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-09 13:01                                 ` 황병희
2020-08-09 16:06                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-10  1:03                                     ` 황병희
2020-08-10 15:54                                       ` T.V Raman
2020-08-11  2:40                                         ` 황병희
2020-08-11  9:59                                         ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-11 12:54                                           ` 황병희
2020-08-11 15:25                                           ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-11 16:11                                             ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-11 18:05                                               ` João Távora
2020-08-11 18:17                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-12  2:27                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-12  4:27                                                   ` 황병희
2020-08-12  3:41                                               ` arthur miller
2020-08-12  6:42                                                 ` tomas
2020-08-12 12:11                                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-08-12 15:55                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-12 16:00                                                     ` tomas
2020-08-12  6:54                                               ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-12  7:53                                                 ` tomas
2020-08-12 12:40                                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-13  2:09                                                     ` 황병희
2020-08-13  2:51                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-13  6:48                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-12 11:30                                               ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-12 12:40                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-08-12 13:02                                                   ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-12 17:13                                                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-08-13 15:39                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-13 17:40                                                 ` David Engster
2020-08-13 17:53                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-14 10:06                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-15  4:35                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-14 10:13                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-14 14:49                                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-14 14:56                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-14 17:24                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-14 17:39                                                       ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-15  4:44                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-15  9:45                                                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17  6:00                                                             ` 范凯
2020-08-17  8:23                                                               ` tomas
2020-08-17 12:30                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17 15:09                                                                   ` tomas
2020-08-17 13:03                                                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-15 11:09                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-16  4:13                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-16  8:17                                                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17  3:23                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-17  7:51                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17 16:05                                                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-18  4:08                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-18  9:15                                                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-21  3:38                                                                         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2020-08-21 17:16                                                                           ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-22  7:24                                                                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-08-22  9:44                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-23  4:46                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-17 15:02                                                                   ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-17 16:44                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17 19:34                                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-17 21:47                                                                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-18  4:10                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-18  4:11                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-26 14:44                                                                     ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-26 20:22                                                                       ` Pierre Téchoueyres
2020-08-27 11:25                                                                         ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-27  2:50                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-27 11:28                                                                         ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-27 12:03                                                                           ` tomas
2020-08-27 12:26                                                                             ` Making GNUS continue to work with Gail Eric S Fraga
2020-08-27 12:30                                                                           ` Making GNUS continue to work with Gmail Andrew Cohen
2020-08-27 12:52                                                                             ` Eric S Fraga
2020-08-28  3:49                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-28  5:35                                                                               ` Andrew Cohen
2020-08-29  4:10                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-28  3:50                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-01 16:23                                                                       ` Uwe Brauer
2020-09-02  9:57                                                                         ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-08-15 19:39                                                           ` Cesar Crusius
2020-08-16 17:23                                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-16 11:54                                                         ` Uwe Brauer
2020-08-16 14:27                                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-11 16:09                           ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-08-12  2:28                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-12  6:47                               ` tomas

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