From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Delete variables obsolete since Emacs 23 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 00:13:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200515175844.18941.61355@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200515175845.997EC20999@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20083fc0-59ca-444b-b18d-69e2f79d8c57@default> <14113880-109b-4315-8970-1100b248bd30@default> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21807"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 16 06:14:36 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7A43-0005XC-RR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:14:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33898 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7A42-0000ki-Sz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 00:14:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7A3M-0008Ip-8o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 00:13:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7A3L-0003ql-KM; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 00:13:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k7A3J-0005gG-4K; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 00:13:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <14113880-109b-4315-8970-1100b248bd30@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 15 Aug 2020 01:28:01 +0000 (UTC)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253835 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] ISTR that we declared interactive-p obsolete because it is an not a correct solution to the problem it is meant to solve. The correct solution is to give the function an optional argument and an interactive spec which provides a non-nil value for that argument in interactive calls. There are cases where that gives the right answer, while interactive-p gives the wrong answer. The point is, you really should change each of those functions so that it will not misbehave in those special situations. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)