From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim Subject: Re: Kmail: Gmail (less secure apps) advice for GNU emacs developers. Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:55:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o8njdlvs.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <1897936.H7q943mS67@merkaba> <5532801.MhkbZ0Pkbq@twilight> <21978174.sr7ieKrsik@beastie.bionicmutton.org> <87pn7vx751.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3378"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: groot@kde.org, oub@mat.ucm.es, kde-pim@kde.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uwe Brauer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 14 04:56:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k6PtA-0000iD-HZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 04:56:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34422 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k6Pt9-0002ZI-Jt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:56:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k6Psg-00028g-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:55:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k6Psf-0000lM-8S; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:55:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k6PsY-00034s-M7; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:55:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pn7vx751.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (message from Uwe Brauer on Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:49:30 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253751 gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim:75014 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This is really bad, deadline is in February. It is annoying, and bad on Google's part, but whether it will turn out badly for GNUS remains to be seen. > I am not sure what RMS is going to say about this. I've already said it. The Kmail developer explained how they made Kmail work with Gmail using OAuth2. I am waiting to see what Larse Ingebrigtsen says about whether GNUS can use that method. In the mean time, please don't panic. Please don't post predictions of disaster. We don't know yet whether we can solve this problem. As for discussion of how to move your email account somewhere else, this is the wrong place to ask for or post advice about that. Those discussions are useful but they are off-topic here. Would people please take those discussions elsewhere, so we can concentrate on developing Emacs? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)