From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 23:12:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="56920"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: sb@dod.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 05 05:13:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jh2nB-000Eh0-AV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 05:13:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jh2nA-0007Wa-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 23:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34360) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jh2md-000770-Eh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 23:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45319) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jh2mb-0004pU-1W; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 23:12:37 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jh2mY-0000IW-7O; Thu, 04 Jun 2020 23:12:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Thu, 04 Jun 2020 11:16:23 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251879 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > When I write a pamphlet using Libre Office, I need to see how it > > will appear on the page. I need to see where line breaks and paragraph > > breaks appear. > > > > I want Emacs to be able to do tect processing that way. > When you say page, you mean a printed page on paper? Of course. A pamphlet is for handing out. > Can't that be helped with some of live preview options for a pdf or ps > or latex format? Auctex maybe? Or maybe some of org -> pdf/ps + DocView? It would probably take half a minute each time. I am sure you understand the advantage of WYSIWYG. Especially when the text needs to fit in a limited space. This is not an issue for longer documents, since it doesn't crucially matter where the page breaks are in those. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)