From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 23:57:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <4e937898-ae46-710a-cbca-e452a1156fa1@yandex.ru> <2e630dc7-ba1d-e4c9-74b3-4da976db1e82@yandex.ru> <837dx99t3i.fsf@gnu.org> <831rnh9ph2.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="33676"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, eliz@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 20 05:58:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFsB-0008ei-F9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 05:58:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFsA-00069x-HB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:58:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFrI-0005ki-KM for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38996) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFrI-0003py-3w; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFrF-0004yO-Os; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:57:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 19 May 2020 16:07:22 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251006 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It's not like it's "not doing the job", or that Finder became worse now, > 3 decades after it was created (I just looked up its development history). > The new alternative simply has more traction. It's basic usability: once > the user learns that they can install packages to add extra Emacs > functionality, they will look for more packages if they need something else. Any ideas for how to make the core packages more visible? Make stub entries for them in GNU ELPA, perhaps? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)