From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Splitting GNU ELPA Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 23:55:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <83imgt9uk8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="58865"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 19 05:56:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jatMz-000FAI-Fr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 05:56:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44188 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jatMy-0007q0-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:56:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jatMF-0006gC-QZ for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:55:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jatMF-00037v-H0; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:55:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jatMD-0007VT-9R; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:55:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83imgt9uk8.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 18 May 2020 17:39:03 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250858 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Basically, I believe that if ELPA is just a distribution site, putting > a package there sends a message that we aren't interested in a package > and are indifferent to its contents, coding standards, etc. In > practice this means that there's nothing to allow us to recommend > those packages over those from other archives, That is true, but we have no reason to compare one archive with another archive. We don't want to disparage MELPA, just avoid referring people to it. So we have no wish to compare anything with it. We would refer people to the no-assignments Exo-ELPA in the sense of telling people "It is there", but that is all we would do. We don't wish to say to people "It is good", only "we don't morally object to them." except that we checked > the license and made sure it doesn't use non-free software (and even > the latter will probably become with time a superficial check that > will not reveal enough). We should take care not to let that happen, and invite people to report that sort of problem to us. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)