From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is GNU ELPA? Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 23:53:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <07d7ff5d-dd57-00e7-933f-3188d57d6185@yandex.ru> <96f718b4-8ba9-7b9a-f940-7070e4a9a424@yandex.ru> <8633670d-91b0-5aee-25f1-2c33b9a15e84@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="94076"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pcr910303@icloud.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 18 05:53:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWqc-000ONa-07 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 05:53:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36362 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWqb-00085m-3V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:53:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWpw-0007NA-Eg for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWpv-0003KZ-SD; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWps-0006KB-Ie; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:53:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8633670d-91b0-5aee-25f1-2c33b9a15e84@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 17 May 2020 21:05:21 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250705 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > The idea that occurs to me is to make M-x load-package tell them, > > occasionally. Perhaps the first time each user runs it. > > Perhaps once a year after that. > The first time it is run sounds fine to me. "A years later" sounds more > puzzling. Although it all depends on what we actually want to write there. The idea is that it would somehow record the date when it shows you the explanation. For the following year, it would not show the explanation again. After that, the next use would show the explanation again. For the following year, it would not show the explanation again. The idea is to remind you occasionally but avoid doing that so often that you would be annoyed. > If there was a more prominent place where Emacs introduced the users to > ELPA (say, Getting Started guide, the tutorial, or the startup screen), > some extra explanation could also be there. I agree, mostly. The explanation does not need to be in the startup screen, where there is no space for it. Rather, the startup screen would tell you to run load-package, and load-package the first time would show you this explanation. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)