From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 23:49:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <4e937898-ae46-710a-cbca-e452a1156fa1@yandex.ru> <405FCFAB-30E4-4F98-81DA-3B09933E86D0@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="87403"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: eliz@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 18 05:52:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWov-000MeJ-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 05:52:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59018 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWou-0005gI-49 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWmc-0003Cy-Of for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:49:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWmc-0002d2-G5 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:49:42 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWmZ-0005ii-Ss; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:49:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 17 May 2020 21:27:51 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250702 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'd say it all depends. We probably aren't going to simply follow what > the author will be asking for, either. > Do they want code review? We could do it once (couldn't we?), but if the > author wants all the changes reviewed all the time, we would probably do > that only for most important packages. Ones that will be enabled for > default, maybe? If we are going to continue saying, of GNU ELPA, that "You can trust it", I think that we need to do some code review for every package in GNU ELPA. We had better treat serious bugs in GNU ELPA the way we treat serious bugs in Emacs. If we want to have two different ways of treating those packages, we need to show the users which category each package is in. The reliable way to do that is to have two archives: one we say you can trust, and one that provides only a place to distribute them. Good names might be "GNU Emacs Exocore" for the ones we review, and "GNU ELPA" for those we don't. I suggest "Exocore" as meaning "like the core, but hosted separately." Or maybe, GNU ELPA for the ones we review, and Alt-ELPA for what we don't. For now, let's call them reviewed and unreviewed. MAYBE it will work well if we get papers for the reviewed packages but not for the unreviewed. Then the reviewed packages might be merged into the core, and the unreviewed are ones we don't consider moving into the core. So if we think a package might be good to put in the core, we should review it AND get papers for it. Eli, do you think that makes sense? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)