From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 23:47:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <873686bbl5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87d07963ec.fsf@fastmail.fm> <873685dq73.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87wo5gc0kb.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87lflv5yzx.fsf@bernoul.li> <433E8CA0-CC87-4877-B9D4-D348531B73F8@medranocalvo.com> <87lflsyfwu.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="78224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, adrian@medranocalvo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ohwoeowho@gmail.com, self@gkayaalp.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 18 05:49:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWmc-000KF4-Ag for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 05:49:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53112 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWmb-00035p-C4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:49:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWkG-0000OI-Vf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWkF-00020t-5B; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:47:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jaWkC-0005K5-Rr; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:47:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lflsyfwu.fsf@russet.org.uk> (message from Phillip Lord on Fri, 15 May 2020 23:47:13 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250699 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I would go for the macro syntax because is could be made backward > compatible with Emacs-27 (as seq.el was with Emacs-24), which the reader > macro cannot. I see your point, but I disagree with the conclusion because I don't think we need to start _using_ this syntax in external packages right away. So I think we should choose the syntax which is better in the long term rather than let backwards compatibility fix this forever. However, we could implement both syntaxes, use the $ syntax in the short term, and convert external packages to the # syntax in a few years. Let's see what Eli thinks about it. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)