From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cl-generic misdesign (was: Poor quality documentation in edebug.el, and recursive documentation) Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 01:03:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200505202048.GA15482@ACM> <20200508195326.GB6705@ACM> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="43392"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: enometh@meer.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 07:06:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ65D-000BC8-3T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 07:06:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ65C-000154-3Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ62L-0004jY-A7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ62J-0007GW-9u; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ62I-0005Ol-FG; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:03:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 12 May 2020 10:04:54 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250193 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Unfortunately we need to know because we have to deal with your > > misdesign of those features and language constructs. I am sorry he said that to you. Those words were uncalled-for. None of us is perfect, and none of us has time to consider every contingency. So every program we write has shortcomings (and bugs, too). If people use the program a lot, they will use it in ways we did not imagine, and sometimes it won't handle them well. C'est la programmation. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)