From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PL support Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 00:59:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <83h7wpdms7.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftc9dm07.fsf@gnu.org> <0d678371-2df7-519e-5ec0-7e26bfa6ea34@gmail.com> <11dff979-002e-e03e-2e3e-cdb09fcc409e@yandex.ru> <8017be3d-a4ed-61eb-9bdb-9a95c77a0698@gmail.com> <3adf65ae-fd0d-4fee-adfd-e11d39a148fc@yandex.ru> <01e211df-acfb-fb8a-eedc-7cb439b64cd8@yandex.ru> <57491476-b7d1-ed1e-9eaf-bc45db607ae8@yandex.ru> <835zd2bf2h.fsf@gnu.org> <1c43f78b-2bc5-8c81-4a57-ba63bb721c85@yandex.ru> <83wo5i9z21.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7wm9uy7.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="103290"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 12 07:00:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYN1r-000QoA-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 07:00:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52756 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYN1q-0005jC-5A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 01:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40406) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYN18-0004zx-5R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 00:59:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYN16-00045S-PM; Tue, 12 May 2020 00:59:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jYN14-0006XV-9k; Tue, 12 May 2020 00:59:42 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 11 May 2020 23:47:36 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249939 Archived-At: Our unwillingness to make Free Software packages like Magit or Tuareg easily installable into Emacs with no extra configuration forces many of our users to add MELPA to their `package-archives`. I'm sure that Magit or Tuareg are most welcome to be part of Emacs if the the needed paper work is done. An idea maybe e.g., Magit could join as a a GNU project, and followed the needed rules for a GNU project but without copyright assignments to the FSF. Then Magit could be listed in the package-archives list. It would not be part of Emacs, but it would safeguard the situation of not falling into a trap of recommending non-free software, etc. The unwillingness you speak of is falling into a trap of recommending things that the GNU project is activley working against -- non-free software. Not an unwillingness to add things.