From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 23:16:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <87wo5mc04t.fsf@fastmail.fm> <835zd5h6tq.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8qwc88b.fsf@russet.org.uk> <85E41CCF-8D56-4878-95CA-4ED7A6B8E40B@icloud.com> <87eerqbg10.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="85586"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, ams@gnu.org, pcr910303@icloud.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 12 05:17:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLQ4-000M8S-5L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 05:17:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38568 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLQ3-0007GK-1z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 23:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54562) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLPB-0005o7-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 23:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58314) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLPA-0004GA-D6; Mon, 11 May 2020 23:16:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLP4-000470-3c; Mon, 11 May 2020 23:16:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87eerqbg10.fsf@russet.org.uk> (message from Phillip Lord on Mon, 11 May 2020 17:19:39 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249925 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > This is just a matter of following the good practises that already > > exist in Emacs. It would be a bad idea to start making a mess, and > > then encouraging this mess to become larger. > Posited on s.el being a mess, which neither it, nor dash.el is. They are > both nice APIs that are nice to use. I agree with you that s.el, in and of itself, is not a mess. I can't speak for AMS, but maybe he would agree. However, adding s.el to Emacs, or to GNU ELPA, would make a mess. The mess would be the juxtaposition of Emacs's own string functions, with the s.el string functions -- two different interfaces for the same job, similar in some places and disparate in others, in an unpredictable way. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)