From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 22:30:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <877dxme268.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="16254"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, ndame@protonmail.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 10 04:31:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbki-00047v-Jm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 04:31:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49930 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbkh-0004Vc-6y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:31:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbjV-0002qr-Sh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:30:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35967) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbjU-0005aG-OI; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:30:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbjQ-0006Rs-BR; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:30:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 09 May 2020 09:45:00 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249618 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I'm in favor in principle of automating the checking, at least > > partially. But we need to carefully study the details. > That's been the status quo for at least ten years. > So, apparently, no, there's no hope for improvement here. That seems like a leap of unfaith. What needs to be checked here is practical -- that it will work in practice as reliably as our current practice. This doesn't require any special knowledge, just careful attention to possible ways things can go awry, from people who won't overlook problems in their eagerness to make the change. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)