From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 23:56:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <87wo5mc04t.fsf@fastmail.fm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="9465"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 05:56:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGbP-0002PL-8o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:56:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52194 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGbN-0005Tf-S1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54782) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGar-0004jo-3X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:56:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGaq-00056U-RT; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGap-0005Yk-Uw; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:56:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wo5mc04t.fsf@fastmail.fm> (message from Joost Kremers on Fri, 08 May 2020 10:16:18 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249353 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > But you just described what dash does. ;-) It is just a collection > of list-handling functions such as they exist in modern functional > programming languages. If you're used to thinking in this paradigm > and then come (back) to Emacs Lisp, it feels like a hopelessly > clunky language. `dash.el` was written to remedy this. That sounds like they could be useful facilities. Since they are real features, not mere aliases and trivialities, they would not have the main flaw of s.el. However, we should look carefully at the specific interfaces of the entry points. Including something into Emacs is a time for regularizing little details. Also, I get the impression the names don't fit Emacs's conventions. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)