From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 23:50:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="117509"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, pcr910303@icloud.com, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 05:50:49 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGVl-000UT8-2R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:50:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40550 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGVj-000881-Kf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGV9-0007cp-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43767) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGV8-00053Q-O6; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXGV6-0004PQ-Lg; Fri, 08 May 2020 23:50:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 7 May 2020 22:10:10 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249348 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > But his general point is probably valid: the more we alienate the > third-party community, and the more we are dismissive of their needs and > expectations, the more likely they are to discount any of our other > recommendations, pay no attention whether a package is in GNU ELPA or > not, and generally use whatever programs that *do* attend to their needs. Don't worry, it won't make a big difference. We must not suppose we desperately need someone to like us. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)